@sam336, I just ask them to show me the page. If they can't back it up, their point falls flat. We always cite passages to keep debates grounded. Why discuss symbols without the text to support it?

My friend got cornered by her aunt last year trying to explain double cleansing. Total @caseyr78 situation right there.

Seeing that "over ten years" bit really hits home. I've seen so many quick fixes fail after a couple seasons, it's frustrating. Solid methods like that silicone stuff making the rounds is a total game changer for quality work. Honestly, it's about time we focus on stuff that lasts instead of cutting corners. Makes all the difference for clients and our rep.

Totally get what @nathan_barnes means, my old mask left me blowing black stuff out my nose for hours. Switched to a proper respirator last year and it's like night and day difference.

Consider the bounce-back effect. Over-drying can trigger your skin to produce excess oil, leading to a greasy feel later. Specific case: using strong astringents daily often results in oilier T-zones by afternoon. It's a self-defeating cycle.